Liars For Barton

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Give credit where credit is due. This must be the first article by this Prothero that I have liked. In fact I'm inspired. Thanks bro.


The article Our Least Christian President at first looksie is about that Jefferson Bible that our team keeps talking about and a new(ish) book from the pseudo-historian of "truthy-ness" David "I don't even have a degree in history, but the GOP treats me like I'm a Phd. historian" Barton called The Jefferson Lies. I think I already wrote about it and how there is already a book by real scholars (and they are even Christian) of truth-n-facts to counter Barton's "truthy-ness." Anyhoo....back to the article.

We are living in uber polarized times, yo.  Seemingly there is no middle way and if you are on the fence about an issue, fuck man, there must be something wrong with you. We have the libs v. the dems, the religious v. Team Atheist and those that understand and accept science and those who do not. Just look at congress and politics. We are so polarized that the reason there is no cooperation in Washington right now is because one side doesn't want the other side to pass a bill that will, gee I dunno, succeed. It's quite pathetic.

When I have said over and over again that the battle for secular society is for everyone and I believe in my heart that it is a fair path to choose...for everyone, the David Barton's of the world are creating groups called Wall Builders. I'm not shitting you. His group is called Wall Builders. They don't want a fair public square for everyone, they want to separate and divide. How's and why's.

This is not a photo of a historian (that's my attempt at an artsy joke. Purddy funny, right).

Very much like professional Christian debater, the infamous, W.L. Craig will bombard you with so many factoids that it is impossible to refute them all and just as hard to process it all, Barton does the same with his brand and interpretation of American history. He will pull out documents that confirm his belief (and that is what it is, a belief, not fact) and Joe and Jane average have no way of knowing any better. The book Liars For Jesus exposes many, if not, all of Barton's lies, but guess who gets more press, guess who gets the ear of politicians (really this book will take the so called proof of Barton and destroy it with, you know, real history and facts.).

When this saturation technique happens then we have home schooled kids growing up believing that the founding fathers absolutely intended for American to be a Christian nation and that (as Chuck Norris and his wife claim) the founding fathers totally wanted the bible to be taught in public schools. All Barton's fans believe this and his fans are politicians, lawmakers, the movers and the shakers. WTF.

What's up with Barton and the Christian President Thomas Jefferson. Tommy J famously cut out all the supernatural stuffs outta the bible and what remained is know as the Jefferson Bible.


"Jefferson called the biblical book of Revelation the "ravings of a maniac." He rejected the divinity of Jesus and the virgin birth. He characterized the Trinity as "hocus-pocus phantasm." And in Bibles on display at the Smithsonian, he cut out the resurrection. To call Jefferson a Christian is to demonstrate disdain for either history or Christianity (or both)."
What does Barton say...Thomas Jefferson was an Orthodox Christian. Really, really                really. The Barton's of the world want to divide it up into two sections...us and them. On one side is Team Jesus (that is if you pick the correct one) and on the other side is everyone else. Normal and sane interpretations of Jefferson and history give him credit for church state separation, but ask Barton and he will say this, he will fucking say this...historians have misinterpreted Thomas Jefferson and he never intended all that church state separation stuffs, sorry. What does Tommy J halfta say about that...
"Let us then, fellow citizens, unite with one heart and one mind. Let us restore to social intercourse that harmony and affection without which liberty, and even life itself, are but dreary things. … Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle. We have called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all Republicans; we are all federalists."

This was after an epic election process, much like what is going on right now. So do you believe the majority of accredited historians that look at history in an unbiased, dare I say scientific, way with no agenda...or the liar for Jesus that is building physical and metaphorical walls to divide and separate this great nation that is trying to tell you his opinion of a fact.  Think about it...a point of view on a fact. Fuckin' ridicules. Kind gentle and very good looking readers (and I'll add today that your hair smells nice)...who do you believe?